Have we reached the point where a podcast is no-longer a podcast? One of the most exciting podcasts of 2022 came from TikToker Madeline Argy and hasn’t been available wherever you get your podcasts! It’s only been on YouTube. Why did Madeline go down this route and where does she see the future of her podcast going? Hear from Madeline in conversation with UTA Audio Agent Shelby Schenkman and Jordan Schwarzenberger, host of the UNBOXED podcast, manager of The Sidemen, and member of Forbes’ 30 under 30 2023.